Former Transportation Secretary Also Reveals Lynn Cheney Was in Presidential Emergency Bunker, and Contradicts 9/11 Commission Report’s Account of Dick Cheney’s Timetable
Here is the You Tube link for Mineta’s testimony: http://www.bing.com/search?q=youtube+to+video+converter&form=MSNH14&pq=you+tube+to+&sc=8-12&sp=7&qs=AS&sk=PA3AS3&ghc=1
Aaron Dykes / JonesReport | June 26, 2007
Former Transportation Secretary Norman Mineta answered questions from members of 9/11 Truth Seattle.org about his testimony before the 9/11 Commission report.
Mineta says Vice President Cheney was “absolutely” already there when he arrived at approximately 9:25 a.m. in the PEOC (Presidential Emergency Operations Center) bunker on the morning of 9/11. Mineta seemed shocked to learn the 9/11 Commission Report claimed Cheney had not arrived there until 9:58– after the Pentagon had been hit, a report that Mineta definitively contradicted.
Norman Mineta revealed that Lynn Cheney was also in the PEOC bunker already at the time of his arrival, along with a number of other staff.
Mineta is on video testifying before the 9/11 Commission, though it was omitted from their final report. He told Lee Hamilton:
“During the time that the airplane was coming into the Pentagon, there was a young man who would come in and say to the Vice President…the plane is 50 miles out…the plane is 30 miles out…and when it got down to the plane is 10 miles out, the young man also said to the vice president “do the orders still stand?” And the Vice President turned and whipped his neck around and said “Of course the orders still stand, have you heard anything to the contrary!?”
Mineta confirmed his statements with reporters, “When I overheard something about ‘the orders still stand’ and so, what I thought of was that they had already made the decision to shoot something down.”
Mineta was still in the PEOG bunker when the plane was reported down in Shanksville, Pennsylvania.
“I remember later on when I heard about the Shanksville plane going down, the Vice President was right across from me, and I said, ‘Do you think that we shot it down ourselves?’ He said, ‘I don’t know.’ He said, ‘Let’s find out.’ So he had someone check with the Pentagon. That was about maybe, let’s say 10:30 or so, and we never heard back from DoD until probably about 12:30.
And they said, ‘No, we didn’t do it.'”
The two hour time delay is suspicious given the Vice President’s own account of the dedicated video communications available that morning, as he told it to Tim Russert of Meet the Press on September 16, 2001 .
“We had access, secured communications with Air Force One, with the secretary of Defense over in the Pentagon. We had also the secure video conference that ties together the White House, CIA, State, Justice, Defense–a very useful and valuable facility. We have the counter-terrorism task force up on that net. And so I was in a position to be able to see all the stuff coming in, receive reports and then make decisions in terms of acting with it.”
At a bare minimum, this confirmation by Norman Mineta constitutes a gross contradiction to the 9/11 Commission Report, and poses serious questions about the Vice President’s role in ordering NORAD to stand down on 9/11.
http://patriotsquestion911.com/#Mineta
Norm Mineta – U.S. Secretary of Transportation 2001 – 2006. U.S. Secretary of Commerce 2000 – 2001. Senior Vice President, Lockheed Martin 1995 – 2000. Former 12-term Congressman from California 1971 – 1995. Currently, Vice Chairman of the Board, Hill & Knowlton.
9/11 Commission testimony 5/23/03:
Lee Hamilton: We thank you for that. I wanted to focus just a moment on the Presidential Emergency Operating Center [PEOC]. You were there for a good part of the day. I think you were there with the vice president. And when you had that order given, I think it was by the president, that authorized the shooting down of commercial aircraft that were suspected to be controlled by terrorists, were you there when that order was given?
Norm Mineta: No, I was not. I was made aware of it during the time that the airplane coming into the Pentagon. There was a young man who had come in and said to the vice president, “The plane is 50 miles out. The plane is 30 miles out.” And when it got down to, “The plane is 10 miles out,” the young man also said to the vice president, “Do the orders still stand?” And the vice president turned and whipped his neck around and said, “Of course the orders still stand. Have you heard anything to the contrary?” Well, at the time I didn’t know what all that meant. And —
Lee Hamilton: The flight you’re referring to is the–
Norm Mineta: The flight that came into the Pentagon. …http://www.youtube.com (Preview)
Norm Mineta: I didn’t know about the order to shoot down. I arrived at the PEOC at about 9:20 a.m. And the president was in Florida, and I believe he was on his way to Louisiana at that point when the conversation that went on between the vice president and the president and the staff that the president had with him.
Tim Roemer: So when you arrived at 9:20 [at the Presidential Emergency Operating Center in the White House], how much longer was it before you overheard the conversation between the young man and the vice president saying, “Does the order still stand?”
Norm Mineta: Probably about five or six minutes.
Tim Roemer: So about 9:25 or 9:26. And your inference
was that the vice president snapped his head around and said, “Yes, the order still stands.” Why did you infer that that was a shoot-down? http://www.youtube.com
Editor’s note: Secretary Mineta’s testimony directly contradicts the 9/11 Commission Report on two key points and it is entirely omitted from the 9/11 Commission Report.
1. Mr. Mineta testified he arrived at the Presidential Emergency Operations Center (PEOC) in the White House at 9:20 a.m. and observed Vice President Dick Cheney discussing with an aide that the incoming Flight 77 was 50 miles out at 9:25 or 9:26. The 9/11 Commission Report maintains Vice President Cheney did not arrive at the PEOC until 9:58, over 30 minutes later. Mr. Mineta’s testimony is further supported by the fact that Flight 77 crashed into the Pentagon at 9:37, which is the correct time it would have taken Flight 77 to arrive at the Pentagon, if it had been about 50 miles out at 9:26.
2. The Commission Report maintains the government did not know the whereabouts of Flight 77 prior to 9:32, when Dulles Tower air controllers “observed a primary radar target tracking eastbound at a high rate of speed”. Mr. Mineta’s testimony reveals Vice President Cheney was being informed of the plane’s position for several minutes before that, and perhaps considerably longer. [Ask yourselves how did anyone on the ground know a random aircraft in flight on that morning intended to strike the Pentagon? There’s no possible way anybody could know that– So why was Dick Cheney so certain the plane should be shot down?]
Also of interest, is that the first approximately 15 minutes of Mr. Mineta’s testimony before the Commission during which he discusses the points mentioned above, have been edited out of the official 9/11 Commission video archives (Panel 1, Friday, May 23. 2003). However, his full testimony does appear in the written transcript.
EXTREME PREJUDICE 
Speaking of having raw intelligence, it is important to preserve evidence of government crimes if those responsible are ever to be held accountable. I just checked and was mildly surprised to see that You Tube is still allowing the testimony of Transportation Secretary Mineta to be viewed through their channel.
I wonder how many times this has been taken down and put back up? I encourage as many people as possible to get a free You Tube converter and use it to extract video files like this to put back up as needed and to show 9/11 deniers why we are not.
Here is the You Tube link: http://www.bing.com/search?q=youtube+to+video+converter&form=MSNH14&pq=you+tube+to+&sc=8-12&sp=7&qs=AS&sk=PA3AS3&ghc=1
excellent– I’m adding the youtube link at the top of the story.
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Excellent posting!
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Thank you so much for making this public. Inconsistencies in Vice Presidents whereabouts 9/11
After the WTC2 was hit, the Secret Service were sent to Cheney’s house to bring his wife to the Whitehouse. On the way the report came in that the Pentagon had been hit. When they got out of the car at the Whitehouse they could see the smoke rising from the Pentagon. Minetta said Lynn Cheney was already in the PEOC in the Whitehouse when he arrived so Minetta couldn’t have been there before the Pentagon was hit.
Nope. That’s the point. Cheney lied about his time line. Mineta would have no reason to invent a story about 9/11– Cheney, however, had every reason. He was hiding advanced White House preparation. I believe Mineta.
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I don’t really understand the point being made here. Why is there no reply by Mineta to the question why did he infer it was a shoot down? Given the plane DID hit the Pentagon I inferred that the order was ‘NOT’ to shoot the plane down. That’s why the person reporting the position of the incoming plane asked the question – I mean he is saying ‘it’s getting closer, it’s getting closer – do the orders still stand?’ (i.e. are you sure we leave it alone?)
I don’t see what is so difficult to understand? Cheney lied, he committed treason, and the 911 investigation tried to get Minetta to say something in effect to protect, cover up for Cheney. Thats aiding and abetting to a crime. That also would be considered treason! Are Americans that dumbed down, that they cannot figure out what really went down on 911? Do some serious research, it takes time, but is well worth it. Google: Black Eagle Trust Fund. That will help you see the details. 911 was about hiding huge sums of money from being known to the American people. Stolen money used for drugs, weapons, wars, destroying Russian ruble.
Mineta was not in the Whitehouse when the Pentagon was hit.
Funny, Mineta is convinced that he heard Cheney confirm a SHOOT-DOWN order.
He did confirm a shoot down order, but it was for UA93 that was approaching after 10 am and not AA77 30 minutes earlier, when Mineta was not in the PEOC and neither was Cheney.
No planes were approaching Washington, D.C. when Cheney confirmed the shoot-down order. All of them had already crashed.
UA93 itself was not approaching Washington but it was showing up on FAA screens because a controller had put a predicted track for the plane into the TSD system, based on it’s last known heading and speed. The track she put in was from Hagerstown VOR in Pennsylvania to National airport near the Pentagon which is basically the downriver approach to Washington. That track was being followed all the way to Washington by airtraffic controllers who can be heard on the FAA tapes wondering what happened to this plane they were following that just disappeared when it reached Washington. People who had evacuated the Pentagon were being warned to get away from the building because there was a second plane approaching , with police with loudhailers saying there was another plane 20 miles out etc.
Mineta said when the plane was approaching he was on the phone to Monty Belger at the FAA who was telling him where the plane was and he said it was approaching by the downriver approach to Washington from beyond Great Falls, which is the direction this UA93 track was coming from. AA77 came from the west and wasn’t even noticed by controllers until it was less than 20 miles away. It then turned away from the city and did a circuit before hitting the Pentagon.
Mineta was asked if he heard anything about UA93 and he said he didn’t , just that it had crashed. How could that be if everyone else was being warned about it?
Mineta also said that Lynne Cheney was in the PEOC when he arrived. She gave interviews only a couple of months after the day and told how she was at a hairdressing appointment when they heard that the WTC towers had been hit and then later that there was an explosion at the Pentagon. The Secret Service agents with her decided to take her to the Whitehouse and as they were driving they could see the smoke rising from the Pentagon in the distance. One detail she gave was that at the gates to the Whitehouse there was a firetruck blocking the entrance and it had to be backed up as they drove around it. If you look at the CNN raw footage on Youtube you can see that happening and I think it’s very likely it is Lynne Cheney arriving at the Whitehouse, after the Pentagon was hit. She said she was then taken down towards the PEOC and met up with Dick Cheney in an area near the PEOC , on the phone to the President. A few minutes later they both went into PEOC itself.
The photos that were released last year under FOIA request show Cheney still in his own office watching the TV at 9.35 am and they also show Mineta arriving in the PEOC and from the sequence of photos the time can be seen to be after 10am.
In the CNN raw footage at least 3 vehicles are seen arriving at the Whitehouse gates, a large green car, a black SUV, (probably Secret Service ) and a tan people carrier. I think Lynne Cheney was in one of those and it is possible this could also be Mineta arriving also. If that is the case it would be conclusive evidence that Mineta’s account is completely wrong.
No one can believe Mr.or Mrs. Cheney of course. Cheney is guilty of being instrumental in the attacks. MIneta’s account is accurate. I’ve seen his testimony. 9/11 was totally an inside job. No plane hit the Pentagon with a 16 foot hole. It was a missile that hit the office investigating the dual citizen comptroller Rabbi Dov Zakheim who lost 2.3 Trillion Tax Dollars of ours, who also had a side job. He was the CEO of the company that makes the remote control flight termination systems on those airplanes and the company that turns jets into cargo planes. Please go to The 9/11 Truth in Action Project website and join and sign the new petition we have to Congress to open up the first ever criminal investigation. 15 years of illegal wars, drone murders in the millions by the U.S. and Obama, loss of our Constitutional rights and freedoms. Over half of our income taxes go to murder people , for illegal wars as homeless pile up here, as the police are militarized illegally, as we gain a leader, Trump who is more of a dictator and monarch than a President. He was not voted in he was appointed like all the rest since JFK. We must prosecute the real criminals of the 9/11 attacks, no little brown man with a lap top in a cave across the world could tell the jets over the Pentagon to stand down. We were and are being duped. The media is owned by the perpertrators, trace it all back to Israel. We are now effectively the United States of Israel. Bring back Yankee White Clearance : Only 100% U.S. Citizens can hold public office. That is the law that was broken in 1967 and since then we’ve been infiltrated by dual citizens with a foreign warring nation that votes itself 11 million dollars a day funding to genocide it’s neighbors.
Minetas’s account is demonstrably inaccurate.
All the evidence he gives contradicts the known facts.
Over a hundred witnesses saw the plane hit the Pentagon.
The bodies of the passengers were identified.
There was a 95ft wide hole in the Pentagon
The was not 2.3 trillion missing from the Pentagon.
It was not hit by a missile.
Before reviewing the military air defence response on 9/11, it is important to remember objectively what the ‘official story’ asks the public to believe… According to their narrative, on the morning of September 11, four enormous, fuel-laden, lumbering aircraft were hijacked by 19 Arab men with box-cutters and zero ‘in-air’ flight experience. These slow, difficult to manoeuvre giants were then flown for 1 hour and 45 minutes through the most restricted airspace in the world without eliciting a single military intercept. The most sophisticated military in the world, able to strike dime-sized targets from hundreds of miles away with laser-guided missiles, precision radar equipment, and state of the art aircraft capable of flying well over 1,300 mph, could not locate, engage, nor intercept four wandering giant ‘jumbo jets’ … A military that has a budget larger than the combined military assets of every other country in the world could not scramble, intercept and engage any of the radically wayward planes. Even Flight 77, which was allowed to fly unimpeded and crash into the Pentagon one full hour after two jets had been flown into the Twin Towers in NYC, failed to elicit the response and intercept from any military jets …. Nor, indeed, did flight 93. A plane that crashed in a Pennsylvania field 1 hour and 45 minutes after the first plane was confirmed hijacked…. This official narrative leaves the public with one of two conclusions. 1/ Either the U.S. military is a wholly inept force incapable of defending the country from even the most rudimentarily hostile elements, rendering it the greatest illusion and farce the world has ever seen. 2/ On the morning of September 11, forces within its own ranks purposely blocked, hamstrung, and prevented the military apparatus from carrying out its most basic defensive responsibilities. Chaney was implicated for lying about his details on the morning of the highjackings – Secretary Mineta’s testimony directly contradicts the 9/11 Commission Report on two key points and it is entirely omitted from the 9/11 Commission Report – like Building 7’s mysterious collapse into its own footprint at 5pm the same day that WTC 1 and 2 collapsed into their own footprints … alot of cover-ups, corruption and lies which carried onward into Afghanistan and Iraq looking for WMD’s that never existed…
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sIt is important to look objectively at the facts.
The military were notified about AA11 going off course and being hijacked at about 8.33 am. They responded immediately by putting pilots at Otis at battle stations and ordering them to their planes to get the scramble order. When they got the scramble order and got into the air the hijackers had crashed the plane into WTC1. There was no chance whatever that they could have intercepted that plane. If they had intercepted it there was absolutely nothing they could or should have done to stop it hitting the building.
UA175 was seen to have changed course and changed transponder code at 8.53. ATC controllers had no idea what was wrong with it and it crashed into WTC2 at 9.03. The military were only told about that after it crashed but immediately sent the interceptors to set up a CAP over New York, and getting a tanker aircraft returning to the US to orbit offshore to refuel the interceptors.
AA77 went off course near the Kentucky border at around 9 am and the controllers who were not aware of hijackings thought it might have crashed as they didn’t see it turn back east. They contacted search and rescue helicopters to get them to look for a plane crash. About 30 minutes later ATC controllers at Dulles noticed an unidentified plane on their radar about 20 miles away heading towards Washington. They didn’t know what plane it was or even what type of plane it was. They asked a military transport pilot to indentify it and he could only tell them it was a Boeing 757. About 2 minutes later at 9.37 it hit the Pentagon. The military had about 4 minutes warning that this plane was heading for Washington.
UA93 was hijacked at around 9.28 am and the military were told about it after 10.03 when it had already crashed.
Norman Mineta has given interviews and lectures , all available on Youtube, where he talks about the plane that he says hit the Pentagon and he describes where the plane was as it approached. It approached from the middle of Pennsylvania, from north of Baltimore, from beyond Great Falls, on the Downriver Approach to Washington, between Roslyn and National Airport and near the USA Today building. That is not the flightpath of AA77 which came from almost due east and was nowhere near the flightpath Mineta talks about. The flightpath Mineta talks about matches the predicted flightpath of UA93 as it approached Washington which everyone was being warned about and it was a predicted flightpath that ended at National Airport which is less than a mile from the Pentagon.
Mineta’s account is wrong. It was wrong when he gave it to the 911 Commission and he still repeats it today because no one has pointed out to him that what he is saying is wrong. He didn’t order all planes in the US to land , that order had already been given by Ben Sliney at the FAA who was asked to back up Mineta’s account about giving that order but refused to do so as it wasn’t true. Meanwhile Mineta continues to go around repeating this inaccurate account and no one is informed enough when he gives these interviews and talks to point it out to him.
That previous comment should started
‘It is important to look objectively…”
Yet Mineta insists that Cheney confirmed a SHOOT-DOWN order.
Twoofers lie.
Funny, Mineta is convinced that he confirmed a shoot-down order. Phone logs and testimony from others present proved that Mineta’s timeline was off by at least a half-hour. Conspiracy liars have recycled this canard for years, but they have been totally busted.
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