Secretary Mineta Confirms Dick Cheney Ordered Stand Down on 9/11

Posted: August 26, 2013 in Uncategorized

Former Transportation Secretary Also Reveals Lynn Cheney Was in Presidential Emergency Bunker, and Contradicts 9/11 Commission Report’s Account of Dick Cheney’s Timetable

Here is the You Tube link for Mineta’s testimony: http://www.bing.com/search?q=youtube+to+video+converter&form=MSNH14&pq=you+tube+to+&sc=8-12&sp=7&qs=AS&sk=PA3AS3&ghc=1

Aaron Dykes / JonesReport | June 26, 2007

Former Transportation Secretary Norman Mineta answered questions from members of 9/11 Truth Seattle.org about his testimony before the 9/11 Commission report.

Mineta says Vice President Cheney was “absolutely” already there when he arrived at approximately 9:25 a.m. in the PEOC (Presidential Emergency Operations Center) bunker on the morning of 9/11. Mineta seemed shocked to learn the 9/11 Commission Report claimed Cheney had not arrived there until 9:58– after the Pentagon had been hit, a report that Mineta definitively contradicted.

Norman Mineta revealed that Lynn Cheney was also in the PEOC bunker already at the time of his arrival, along with a number of other staff.

Mineta is on video testifying before the 9/11 Commission, though it was omitted from their final report. He told Lee Hamilton:

“During the time that the airplane was coming into the Pentagon, there was a young man who would come in and say to the Vice President…the plane is 50 miles out…the plane is 30 miles out…and when it got down to the plane is 10 miles out, the young man also said to the vice president “do the orders still stand?” And the Vice President turned and whipped his neck around and said “Of course the orders still stand, have you heard anything to the contrary!?”

Mineta confirmed his statements with reporters, “When I overheard something about ‘the orders still stand’ and so, what I thought of was that they had already made the decision to shoot something down.”

Mineta was still in the PEOG bunker when the plane was reported down in Shanksville, Pennsylvania.

“I remember later on when I heard about the Shanksville plane going down, the Vice President was right across from me, and I said, ‘Do you think that we shot it down ourselves?’ He said, ‘I don’t know.’ He said, ‘Let’s find out.’ So he had someone check with the Pentagon. That was about maybe, let’s say 10:30 or so, and we never heard back from DoD until probably about 12:30.

And they said, ‘No, we didn’t do it.'”

The two hour time delay is suspicious given the Vice President’s own account of the dedicated video communications available that morning, as he told it to Tim Russert of Meet the Press on September 16, 2001 .

“We had access, secured communications with Air Force One, with the secretary of Defense over in the Pentagon. We had also the secure video conference that ties together the White House, CIA, State, Justice, Defense–a very useful and valuable facility. We have the counter-terrorism task force up on that net. And so I was in a position to be able to see all the stuff coming in, receive reports and then make decisions in terms of acting with it.”

At a bare minimum, this confirmation by Norman Mineta constitutes a gross contradiction to the 9/11 Commission Report, and poses serious questions about the Vice President’s role in ordering NORAD to stand down on 9/11.

http://patriotsquestion911.com/#Mineta

Norm Mineta – U.S. Secretary of Transportation 2001 – 2006. U.S. Secretary of Commerce 2000 – 2001. Senior Vice President, Lockheed Martin 1995 – 2000. Former 12-term Congressman from California 1971 – 1995. Currently, Vice Chairman of the Board, Hill & Knowlton.

9/11 Commission testimony 5/23/03:

Lee Hamilton: We thank you for that. I wanted to focus just a moment on the Presidential Emergency Operating Center [PEOC]. You were there for a good part of the day. I think you were there with the vice president. And when you had that order given, I think it was by the president, that authorized the shooting down of commercial aircraft that were suspected to be controlled by terrorists, were you there when that order was given?

Norm Mineta: No, I was not. I was made aware of it during the time that the airplane coming into the Pentagon. There was a young man who had come in and said to the vice president, “The plane is 50 miles out. The plane is 30 miles out.” And when it got down to, “The plane is 10 miles out,” the young man also said to the vice president, “Do the orders still stand?” And the vice president turned and whipped his neck around and said, “Of course the orders still stand. Have you heard anything to the contrary?” Well, at the time I didn’t know what all that meant. And —

Lee Hamilton: The flight you’re referring to is the–

Norm Mineta: The flight that came into the Pentagon. …http://www.youtube.com (Preview)

Norm Mineta: I didn’t know about the order to shoot down. I arrived at the PEOC at about 9:20 a.m. And the president was in Florida, and I believe he was on his way to Louisiana at that point when the conversation that went on between the vice president and the president and the staff that the president had with him.

Tim Roemer: So when you arrived at 9:20 [at the Presidential Emergency Operating Center in the White House], how much longer was it before you overheard the conversation between the young man and the vice president saying, “Does the order still stand?”

Norm Mineta: Probably about five or six minutes.

Tim Roemer: So about 9:25 or 9:26. And your inference
was that the vice president snapped his head around and said, “Yes, the order still stands.” Why did you infer that that was a shoot-down? http://www.youtube.com

Editor’s note: Secretary Mineta’s testimony directly contradicts the 9/11 Commission Report on two key points and it is entirely omitted from the 9/11 Commission Report.

1. Mr. Mineta testified he arrived at the Presidential Emergency Operations Center (PEOC) in the White House at 9:20 a.m. and observed Vice President Dick Cheney discussing with an aide that the incoming Flight 77 was 50 miles out at 9:25 or 9:26. The 9/11 Commission Report maintains Vice President Cheney did not arrive at the PEOC until 9:58, over 30 minutes later. Mr. Mineta’s testimony is further supported by the fact that Flight 77 crashed into the Pentagon at 9:37, which is the correct time it would have taken Flight 77 to arrive at the Pentagon, if it had been about 50 miles out at 9:26.

2. The Commission Report maintains the government did not know the whereabouts of Flight 77 prior to 9:32, when Dulles Tower air controllers “observed a primary radar target tracking eastbound at a high rate of speed”. Mr. Mineta’s testimony reveals Vice President Cheney was being informed of the plane’s position for several minutes before that, and perhaps considerably longer. [Ask yourselves how did anyone on the ground know a random aircraft in flight on that morning intended to strike the Pentagon? There’s no possible way anybody could know that– So why was Dick Cheney so certain the plane should be shot down?]

Also of interest, is that the first approximately 15 minutes of Mr. Mineta’s testimony before the Commission during which he discusses the points mentioned above, have been edited out of the official 9/11 Commission video archives (Panel 1, Friday, May 23. 2003). However, his full testimony does appear in the written transcript.

Bio: http://www.nndb.com/people/649/000024577/

Comments
  1. Speaking of having raw intelligence, it is important to preserve evidence of government crimes if those responsible are ever to be held accountable. I just checked and was mildly surprised to see that You Tube is still allowing the testimony of Transportation Secretary Mineta to be viewed through their channel.

    I wonder how many times this has been taken down and put back up? I encourage as many people as possible to get a free You Tube converter and use it to extract video files like this to put back up as needed and to show 9/11 deniers why we are not.

    Here is the You Tube link: http://www.bing.com/search?q=youtube+to+video+converter&form=MSNH14&pq=you+tube+to+&sc=8-12&sp=7&qs=AS&sk=PA3AS3&ghc=1

  2. Girl

    Excellent posting!

    Never forget (.)

    (((3)))

  3. Thank you so much for making this public. Inconsistencies in Vice Presidents whereabouts 9/11

  4. A.Wright says:

    After the WTC2 was hit, the Secret Service were sent to Cheney’s house to bring his wife to the Whitehouse. On the way the report came in that the Pentagon had been hit. When they got out of the car at the Whitehouse they could see the smoke rising from the Pentagon. Minetta said Lynn Cheney was already in the PEOC in the Whitehouse when he arrived so Minetta couldn’t have been there before the Pentagon was hit.

    • Nope. That’s the point. Cheney lied about his time line. Mineta would have no reason to invent a story about 9/11– Cheney, however, had every reason. He was hiding advanced White House preparation. I believe Mineta.

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  9. mrc says:

    I don’t really understand the point being made here. Why is there no reply by Mineta to the question why did he infer it was a shoot down? Given the plane DID hit the Pentagon I inferred that the order was ‘NOT’ to shoot the plane down. That’s why the person reporting the position of the incoming plane asked the question – I mean he is saying ‘it’s getting closer, it’s getting closer – do the orders still stand?’ (i.e. are you sure we leave it alone?)

  10. former marine says:

    I don’t see what is so difficult to understand? Cheney lied, he committed treason, and the 911 investigation tried to get Minetta to say something in effect to protect, cover up for Cheney. Thats aiding and abetting to a crime. That also would be considered treason! Are Americans that dumbed down, that they cannot figure out what really went down on 911? Do some serious research, it takes time, but is well worth it. Google: Black Eagle Trust Fund. That will help you see the details. 911 was about hiding huge sums of money from being known to the American people. Stolen money used for drugs, weapons, wars, destroying Russian ruble.

    • Colin Doran says:

      Mineta was not in the Whitehouse when the Pentagon was hit.

      • pomeroo says:

        Funny, Mineta is convinced that he heard Cheney confirm a SHOOT-DOWN order.

        • Colin Doran says:

          He did confirm a shoot down order, but it was for UA93 that was approaching after 10 am and not AA77 30 minutes earlier, when Mineta was not in the PEOC and neither was Cheney.

          • pomeroo says:

            No planes were approaching Washington, D.C. when Cheney confirmed the shoot-down order. All of them had already crashed.

            • Colin Doran says:

              UA93 itself was not approaching Washington but it was showing up on FAA screens because a controller had put a predicted track for the plane into the TSD system, based on it’s last known heading and speed. The track she put in was from Hagerstown VOR in Pennsylvania to National airport near the Pentagon which is basically the downriver approach to Washington. That track was being followed all the way to Washington by airtraffic controllers who can be heard on the FAA tapes wondering what happened to this plane they were following that just disappeared when it reached Washington. People who had evacuated the Pentagon were being warned to get away from the building because there was a second plane approaching , with police with loudhailers saying there was another plane 20 miles out etc.
              Mineta said when the plane was approaching he was on the phone to Monty Belger at the FAA who was telling him where the plane was and he said it was approaching by the downriver approach to Washington from beyond Great Falls, which is the direction this UA93 track was coming from. AA77 came from the west and wasn’t even noticed by controllers until it was less than 20 miles away. It then turned away from the city and did a circuit before hitting the Pentagon.
              Mineta was asked if he heard anything about UA93 and he said he didn’t , just that it had crashed. How could that be if everyone else was being warned about it?
              Mineta also said that Lynne Cheney was in the PEOC when he arrived. She gave interviews only a couple of months after the day and told how she was at a hairdressing appointment when they heard that the WTC towers had been hit and then later that there was an explosion at the Pentagon. The Secret Service agents with her decided to take her to the Whitehouse and as they were driving they could see the smoke rising from the Pentagon in the distance. One detail she gave was that at the gates to the Whitehouse there was a firetruck blocking the entrance and it had to be backed up as they drove around it. If you look at the CNN raw footage on Youtube you can see that happening and I think it’s very likely it is Lynne Cheney arriving at the Whitehouse, after the Pentagon was hit. She said she was then taken down towards the PEOC and met up with Dick Cheney in an area near the PEOC , on the phone to the President. A few minutes later they both went into PEOC itself.
              The photos that were released last year under FOIA request show Cheney still in his own office watching the TV at 9.35 am and they also show Mineta arriving in the PEOC and from the sequence of photos the time can be seen to be after 10am.
              In the CNN raw footage at least 3 vehicles are seen arriving at the Whitehouse gates, a large green car, a black SUV, (probably Secret Service ) and a tan people carrier. I think Lynne Cheney was in one of those and it is possible this could also be Mineta arriving also. If that is the case it would be conclusive evidence that Mineta’s account is completely wrong.

  11. pomeroo says:

    Yet Mineta insists that Cheney confirmed a SHOOT-DOWN order.

    Twoofers lie.

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